Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Confusing Rules

So, a place where I often travel has some confusing rules about weapons. Most are merely inconvenient or philosophically distasteful but are easily enough complied with.

This provision about transporting weapons however is harder to deal with:

Weapons may be transported in plain view, secured in the trunk, or secured in the rear storage compartment of a vehicle. Weapons should be secured in a carrying case, holster, or suitable container. Firearms must be transported unloaded and ammunition separate from the weapon.

Carrying a loaded or unloaded concealed weapon... is prohibited, including those in possession of the State of Alaska Concealed Weapons permit.
Ok, so, CCW is clearly out. Let's parse the rest.

Weapons may be transported in plain view, secured in the trunk, or secured in the rear storage compartment of a vehicle.

So, its clearly ok to have the weapon in the trunk of my car. That's inconvenient as you have to get out of the car, take off your weapon, clear it, put it in the trunk (secured, I assume), and then get back in the car. That sucks when its really cold out.

I also assume its ok to have the weapon out on the seat so long as it is in plain sight. So you could put the weapon on the passenger seat or back seat. The downside to this is (1) scares the sheeple, (2) likely subjects your car (the grabbable area) to a Terry frisk, and (3) possibly gives probable cause for a more invasive search, which is a pain in the ass when you deal with a checkpoint frequently.

This is stretching it, but it may be in "plain sight" if you are open carrying. For example, say you have a shoulder holster on and take off your concealing garment before entering the restricted area. This is more convenient than dropping it on the seat. More questionable would be something like a OWB holster with concealing garment removed.

Weapons should be secured in a carrying case, holster, or suitable container.

I think its only possible to use a carrying case or suitable container if the weapon is secured in the trunk. The ideal solution would be a locking hardsided case in the passenger compartment that you put the weapon into, but then it would not be in "plain sight" (unless you have a clear plastic briefcase or pelican box). So, if going with any sort of inside-the-car gameplan, you need a holster that is somehow secured to the interior of the vehicle. Unless you want your paddle holster that's sitting on the seat to just fly around the interior of the car when making a stop.

Firearms must be transported unloaded and ammunition separate from the weapon.

This provision is the one I have the most heartburn over. Basically, if you want to carry a weapon in condition 2 outside the restricted area, you need to find a way to clear it. There are no clearing barrels at the checkpoint to the restricted area, and besides, I don't like waving guns around right outside security checkpoints. Clearing a weapon in a car seems like a bad idea to me. So there's really no safe way to do this.

Additionally, I'm not sure what "separate" means. Does that mean that if I've got an unloaded pistol at 4 o'clock on my belt and a mag pouch at 8 o'clock they are seperate? Or does the ammo need to be in the glove box? Or in a locked case? Or in the trunk? Just how separate is separate?

Why This Bugs Me

This whole dilemma is what irritates me about gun control. The proponents of such rules are trying to make things safer. However, the rules themselves force responsible gun owners into unsafe dilemmas (do I clear the weapon in the car? do I brandish a firearm at a security checkpoint? how do I secure a holster in plain sight in the passenger compartment?), while people who ignore the rules will just... ignore them.

Another reason why this bothers me is that it can make law abiding people into rule breakers very easily. For example, if the security decides that the ammo isn't separate if its in a mag pouch on my belt, then am I in trouble? Maybe.

The ultimate solution may be to either get a special concealed carry permit from the authorities for this facility (will be hard), or to try and get an exemption to policy, or to get the policy changed. For example, it may be possible to get an exemption that lets me continue to carry concealed until I can get to a safe place to clear the weapon. It may also be possibke to get a memorandum that clarifies the point about "in plain sight" and lets me put the weapon in a locked container in the passenger compartment, which is much better than a holster sliding around inside the car.

Otherwise, it seems like the only safe and viable gameplan is to carry in condition 4 (unloaded, no mag in the weapon) and put the gun on the seat in "plain sight" in a holster that's somehow secured to the seatbelt or something. And hope that security doesn't continously freak out and search my car.

2 comments:

  1. For a mechanical solution, you might try a revolver if this is going to be a frequent visit, at least until you get another option figured out.

    No "clearing" per se, as far as chambering and unchambering and the associated risks go. Just open the cylinder and dump the rounds. Keep a couple speedloaders in a separate bag for a rapid reload when allowed.

    Matthew Carberry - Anchorage

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  2. Matthew,

    Good idea -- a sixgun might be the answer. Certainly safer to clear in the vehicle, although it doesn't get around the "brandishing a weapon at the checkpoint" issue. May be possible to discreetely park in a nearby lot just before the checkpoint to unload.

    Thanks for the idea!

    Chris

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