Again, from Joan: "I give you the argument of the guys with the "man pants" on ladies and gentlemen-" We're saying that we'd rather have more gun deaths and lower overall violent crime, than zero gun deaths and higher rates of violent crime if given the choice" And there you have it. Nothing more to say here except "Wow" and "unbelievable""
It seems like she's said it plainly here. Her "common sense" is that it's better to have more violent crime, as long as there are no guns involved. And she wonders why we are not willing to compromise!